citizen if you're here in the united states illegally now, and there are many hoops to jump through, pay taxes, and so on. but this is -- i really haven't seen anything like this recently where it all came together. it all seems to be coming together and come paper it to gun control, jenna. with gun control you had a huge lobby against it, a powerful lobby, nra and other gun groups and people who own guns. on immigration reform you have a lot of serious conservative criticism, particularly about the security measures in the bill, but it's nothing like the powerful lobby that was against gun control. jenna: it's a bit redundant to say there is politics involved here, isn't it fred? looking at this "politico" article written this week that was talking about the bill, here is what "politico" says. it says the immigration proposal pending in congress will transform the nation's political landscape for a a generation or more. if current trend hold it's going to produce anee location toerl bonanza for democrats and cripple republicans. what do you think about that assessment? >> i think it's wrong f